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October 25, 1982 · Piper PA-28-161 · N8184Y

St. Charles, MO

Overview

Report Status
Preliminary report
Event Type
Accident
Date
October 25, 1982
Injury Outcomes
4 injuries (4 fatalities)
Location
St. Charles, MO
Aircraft
Piper PA-28-161
Tail Number
N8184Y
Operator
Richard H & Laurie M Kreitne
Injuries
Fatal
Aircraft Damage
Substantial
NTSB Number
MKC83FCA01

THE ACFT CRASHED ON THE NORTH BOUNDARY OF THE ARPT WITHIN MINUTES AFTER HAVING BEEN SEEN DEPARTING RWY 27. DENSE GROUND FOG PREVAILED AT THE CRASH SITE. APPROXIMATELY 1-1/2 HOURS AFTER THE ACCIDENT EXAMINATION DISCLOSD VERY HEAVY FROST ON ALL ACFT PARKED ADJACENT TO THE SPOT WHERE THE ACFT HAD BEEN SEEN PARKED FOR TWO DAYS. ACCORDING TO THE PERSON WHO DROVE THE PLT TO THE ARPT THERE WAS FROST ON THE ACFT WHEN THEY ARRIVED AT THE ARPT. HE FURTHER STATED THAT HE DID NOT SEE THE PLT REMOVE FROST FROM ANY PART OF THE ACFT EXCEPT THE WINDSHIELD. THE CARBURETOR HEAT VALVE WAS FOUND JAMMED IN THE FULL HOT POSITION. ACCORDING TO ENGINEERING DATA OBTAINED FROM PIPER THE HEAT RISE OF THE CARB HEAT SYSTEM IS 129 DEG F AT 75% POWER & 28 DEG F AMBIENT AIR TEMP. THE POWER LOSS DUE TO CARB HEAT IS 1% FOR EACH 10 DEG HEAT RISE.

Full Narrative

THE ACFT CRASHED ON THE NORTH BOUNDARY OF THE ARPT WITHIN MINUTES AFTER HAVING BEEN SEEN DEPARTING RWY 27. DENSE GROUND FOG PREVAILED AT THE CRASH SITE. APPROXIMATELY 1-1/2 HOURS AFTER THE ACCIDENT EXAMINATION DISCLOSD VERY HEAVY FROST ON ALL ACFT PARKED ADJACENT TO THE SPOT WHERE THE ACFT HAD BEEN SEEN PARKED FOR TWO DAYS. ACCORDING TO THE PERSON WHO DROVE THE PLT TO THE ARPT THERE WAS FROST ON THE ACFT WHEN THEY ARRIVED AT THE ARPT. HE FURTHER STATED THAT HE DID NOT SEE THE PLT REMOVE FROST FROM ANY PART OF THE ACFT EXCEPT THE WINDSHIELD. THE CARBURETOR HEAT VALVE WAS FOUND JAMMED IN THE FULL HOT POSITION. ACCORDING TO ENGINEERING DATA OBTAINED FROM PIPER THE HEAT RISE OF THE CARB HEAT SYSTEM IS 129 DEG F AT 75% POWER & 28 DEG F AMBIENT AIR TEMP. THE POWER LOSS DUE TO CARB HEAT IS 1% FOR EACH 10 DEG HEAT RISE.

Flight

Event TypeAccident
Event Time05:25 CDT
Nearest AirportSt. Charles (0nm N)
Runway27
Runway Length3500 ft
Runway Width50 ft
Flight Plan FiledNone
Aircraft FireNo
Aircraft ExplosionNo

Aircraft

AircraftPiper PA-28-161
Tail NumberN8184Y
Aircraft CategoryAir
DamageSubstantial
OperatorRichard H & Laurie M Kreitne
Operating RulePart 91
Engines1
Engine TypeReciprocating
Engine DetailsLycoming · O-320-D3G · Reciprocating · 160
Seats4

People & Injuries

Injury Summary4 injuries (4 fatalities)
Fatal4
Serious0
Minor0
Uninjured0
Total4
Crew 1Age 30 · Second Class

Conditions

ConditionsIMC
LightDark Night
Wind270° @ 5 kt
CeilingNone
Temperature / Dew Point0 C / 0 C
Altimeter30.00 inHg

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