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March 18, 2010 · Piper PA-22-160 · N8830D

Phoenix, AZ

Overview

Report Status
Final with probable cause
Event Type
Accident
Date
March 18, 2010
Injury Outcomes
No injuries (2 uninjured)
Location
Phoenix, AZ
Aircraft
Piper PA-22-160
Tail Number
N8830D
Operator
Saltzman John
Injuries
None
Aircraft Damage
Substantial
NTSB Number
WPR10CA170

The flight instructor said that he was giving the student pilot a final instructional flight before his Federal Aviation Administration private pilot certificate check ride. The student was flying the airplane and they were cleared for the option to runway 30L; the wind was from 180 degrees at 7 knots. The flight instructor alerted the student to the left quartering tailwind for the landing. The touchdown was normal, but as the airplane slowed it began to drift left. Both pilots applied right rudder and then left rudder; however, directional control was lost and the airplane ground-looped. The left wing impacted the runway, bending and wrinkling the wing. Additionally, the aft fuselage was bent and wrinkled near the tailwheel.

NTSB Probable Cause

The student pilot's inadequate compensation for the quartering tailwind during landing and the flight instructor's delay in taking remedial action.

Full Narrative

The flight instructor said that he was giving the student pilot a final instructional flight before his Federal Aviation Administration private pilot certificate check ride. The student was flying the airplane and they were cleared for the option to runway 30L; the wind was from 180 degrees at 7 knots. The flight instructor alerted the student to the left quartering tailwind for the landing. The touchdown was normal, but as the airplane slowed, it began to drift left. Both pilots applied right rudder and then left rudder; however, directional control was lost, and the airplane ground looped. The left wing impacted the runway, bending and wrinkling the wing. Additionally, the aft fuselage was bent and wrinkled near the tail wheel.

Flight

Event TypeAccident
Event Time10:00 MST
Nearest AirportPhoenix-Mesa Gateway Arpt (0nm)
Runway30L
Runway Length10401 ft
Runway Width150 ft
Flight Plan FiledUnknown
Aircraft FireNo
Aircraft ExplosionNo

Aircraft

AircraftPiper PA-22-160
Tail NumberN8830D
Aircraft CategoryAir
DamageSubstantial
OperatorSaltzman John
Operating RulePart 91
Engines1
Engine TypeReciprocating
Engine DetailsLycoming · O-320 SERIES · Reciprocating · 180
Seats4

People & Injuries

Injury SummaryNo injuries (2 uninjured)
Fatal0
Serious0
Minor0
Uninjured2
Total2
Crew 1Age 62 · Second Class · None
Crew 2Age 39 · Third Class · None

Conditions

ConditionsVMC
LightDaylight
Wind180° @ 7 kt
Visibility45 sm
CeilingNone
Temperature / Dew Point39 C
Altimeter29.88 inHg
Observation Time17:08
Weather SourceWFAC

Appendix: Source Data